{"id":893,"date":"2013-11-11T15:10:55","date_gmt":"2013-11-11T15:10:55","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/mythikismos.gr\/?p=893"},"modified":"2013-11-11T15:12:55","modified_gmt":"2013-11-11T15:12:55","slug":"what-is-mythicism-by-rene-salm","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/mythikismos.gr\/?p=893","title":{"rendered":"What is Mythicism? (by Rene Salm)"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/mythikismos.gr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/11\/Jesus-a-Myth.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-898 aligncenter\" alt=\"Jesus-a-Myth\" src=\"https:\/\/mythikismos.gr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/11\/Jesus-a-Myth-300x153.jpg\" width=\"300\" height=\"153\" srcset=\"https:\/\/mythikismos.gr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/11\/Jesus-a-Myth-300x153.jpg 300w, https:\/\/mythikismos.gr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/11\/Jesus-a-Myth.jpg 500w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>The question is harder to answer than might first be suspected. I\u2019ve been waiting a few years for the word \u201cmythicist\u201d to appear in dictionaries\u2014applied, that is, to the Christ myth theory. To my knowledge, it hasn\u2019t yet. \u201cMythicist\u201d in mainstream dictionaries still refers to 1. a student of myths, or 2. an interpreter of myths. Wikipedia makes a disparaging nod in the direction of <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Mythicist\">mythicism<\/a> by calling it a \u201c19th century theology.\u201d Those who hold the view today are, presumably, pass\u00e9.<\/p>\n<p>About a century ago, \u201cmythicist\u201d (Eng.) and \u201cmythiste\u201d (Fr.) did refer to those espousing the Christ myth theory. But thereafter the mythicist point of view was effectively forced out of discussion. Since the closing decades of the 20th century, mythicists have been slowly and laboriously clawing their way back into the discussion. Of course, we still aren\u2019t quite <i>there<\/i> yet. Landmarks in the New Mythicism are largely anglo-American: the books of G. A. Wells in Britain (1970s -present), Doherty\u2019s \u201cThe Jesus Puzzle\u201d (1999\/2009), Price\u2019s books including \u201cDeconstructing Jesus\u201d (2000), Zindler\u2019s \u201cThe Jesus the Jews Never Knew\u201d (2003), and my \u201cThe Myth of Nazareth\u201d (2008).<\/p>\n<p>The word \u201cmythicist\u201d is still neither used by, nor even known to, the majority of biblical scholars. It appears almost exclusively in discusssions by mythicists themselves, and they are relatively few in number. It is still very much a technical term on the fringe of biblical studies. At the beginning of the new millennium there was not even consensus on the form of the word: \u201cmythist\u201d or \u201cmythicist.\u201d The latter has prevailed, and \u201cmythist\u201d is sometimes used today more or less in caricature by those who seek to delegitimize Jesus mythicism.<\/p>\n<p>With the appearance of Bart D. Ehrman\u2019s <i>Did Jesus Exist?<\/i> (2012) mythicism took a significant step closer to the mainstream of discussion. Ehrman\u2019s book is (predicably) selling well and has functioned to bring Jesus mythicism before a general readership for the first time in history. <i>DJE?<\/i> seeks to defend the historicity of Jesus, but it has not been altogether successful if one judges by the varied reactions. As of this writing, the 92 customer reviews on amazon.com average out to three stars out of five\u2014mediocre. The <a href=\"http:\/\/www.mythicistpapers.com\/80-mythicist-responses-to-b-ehrmans-did-jesus-exist\/\">80+ reviews by mythicists themselves<\/a>, of course, are uniformly critical.<\/p>\n<p>With mythicism receiving more exposure, I recently took a closer look at the word and the ways in which it is being used. What I discovered was in some ways surprising.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Semi-mythicism and euhemerism<\/strong><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>A mythicist is one who concludes that Jesus of Nazareth never existed and also that no human prophet lay at the origin of Christianity.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>That is how I define a \u201cmythicist.\u201d The definition has two components. For those who, like myself, embrace only the first part but not the second, I use a different term: \u201csemi-mythicist.\u201d I personally have concluded that Jesus of Nazareth never existed, yet I also suspect that a human prophet (the Teacher of Righteousness? John the Baptist?) lay at the root of the Christian religion. Of course, I am quite convinced that the biography of Jesus of Nazareth was invented out of whole cloth. So in my view the following sequence obtains:<\/p>\n<p>(1) a prophet \u2013&gt;<br \/>\n(2) a false biography (Jesus of Nazareth) \u2013&gt;<br \/>\n(3) the second member of the divine Christian trinity.<\/p>\n<p>The above makes me a euhemerist, and so we see that there is no conflict between euhemerism and mythicism. Anyone who thinks that a human lies at the root of Christianity (even if that human was not Jesus of Nazareth) is a euhemerist\u2014for that human was eventually deified. The Christians get around this by saying that Jesus was God from the start. I happen to be an atheist and don\u2019t buy into that doctrine nor deification\u2014nor into the false biography of Jesus. But I am still both a euhemerist and a semi-mythicist. This is altogether too nuanced for most people and so, in casual parlance, I am simply a \u201cmythicist\u201d\u2014one who denies the existence of Jesus of Nazareth (the \u201ccommon\u201d definition of mythicism).<\/p>\n<p><strong>Mythicism and docetism<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Mainstream scholarship (as noted above) still hardly recognizes the term \u201cmythicism\u201d and its cognates. The reason is clear: scholarship is not ready to seriously engage with the issue (and will put off doing so as long as possible). Such engagement would not only acknowledge the existence of the mythicist view but would also accord it a measure of legitimacy. However, times are changing.<\/p>\n<p>Scholarship has since ancient times (I include here the Church Fathers as \u201cscholars\u201d) been enamored of a somewhat related term: \u201cdocetist\u201d (from the Greek, <i>dokein<\/i> \u201cto seem\u201d). The use of this term in reference to Jesus (the only use it\u2019s ever had, AFAIK) has always appeared odd to me. Wikipedia defines <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Docetism\">docetism<\/a> as: \u201cthe doctrine according to which the phenomenon of Christ, his historical and bodily existence, and thus above all the human form of Jesus, was altogether mere semblance without any true reality\u201d (Norbert Brox). It continues: \u201cBroadly it is taken as the belief that Jesus only seemed to be human, and that his physical body was a phantasm.\u201d Wow. According to this definition, we are supposed to believe that there were people in antiquity who thought Jesus was a disembodied spirit that haunted the Galilee and Judea talking with Scribes, Pharisees, disciples, and sinners\u2026 Furthermore, there were so many such ghost-believers that they constituted a particularly dangerous threat to the new religion, as evidenced by the repeated obloquy cast upon them by the Church Fathers. I find all this hard to believe. For me, it just doesn\u2019t add up.<\/p>\n<p>It has long been my suspicion that the reason the Church Fathers were so incensed at \u201cdocetists\u201d is because those people were going around saying that Jesus of Nazareth didn\u2019t exist, period. Some of those naysayers may have lived in Palestine in the time of Pontius Pilate, or had parents who did. They knew better. These people immediately gave the lie to Christianity and were poised to pop the new religion\u2019s balloon at any time. Indeed, hardly a greater threat to the new religion could be imagined. The good deal of virulent anti-\u201ddocetist\u201d literature stresses the corporeality of Jesus. This in itself proves to me that the docetists were in fact ancient mythicists.<\/p>\n<p>This explains, IMO, the extraordinary threat posed by \u201cdocetists\u201d vis-a-vis incipient Christianity. In other words, the docetists weren\u2019t merely a bunch of loonies who thought Jesus \u201cexisted\u201d as a phantasm. Rather, <i>the docetists were the mythicists of early Christianity<\/i>.<\/p>\n<p>Scholarship will certainly vehemently oppose this equating of docetism with mythicism. After all, to admit such a definition of docetism would be to admit that there were Jesus mythicists in ancient times. This is even more dangerous than admitting the existence of <i>modern<\/i> mythicists!<\/p>\n<p><strong>Some technical definitions<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>(1) <b>Jesus mythicist<\/b>\u2014Concludes that Jesus of Nazareth never existed as a human being. He was invented. [Jesus mythicists <i>may<\/i> believe that &#8220;Jesus&#8221; was also purely spiritual\u2014see next entry.]<\/p>\n<p>(2) <b>Docetist<\/b>\u2014Believes that \u201cJesus\u201d was\/is purely a spiritual entity. [Hence, docetists were\/are also Jesus mythicists.]<\/p>\n<p>(3) <b>Semi-mythicist<\/b>\u2014Concludes that Jesus of Nazareth never existed as a human being (see 1 &amp; 2), but also maintains that a human prophet lay at the origin of Christianity (e.g., the Teacher of Righteousness, John the Baptist).<\/p>\n<p>(4) <b>Mythicist<\/b>\u2014Concludes that Jesus of Nazareth never existed and also that no human prophet lay at the origin of Christianity.<\/p>\n<p>At this time, the above terminology is probably too complex to be workable for more than just a few people. \u201cMythicist\u201d will no doubt continue to function as a shorthand term for all the above four categories, with the current focus on number (1), and the remaining categories generally not clarified.<\/p>\n<p>The tradition uses the term \u201cmythicist\u201d only for modern deniers of the historicity of Jesus. For convenience it rejects the existence of such deniers in ancient times and prefers the loose term \u201cdocetist,\u201d with its somewhat ridiculous implications. However, there certainly were Jesus mythicists, semi-mythicists, and mythicists in the early Christian centuries. Whether there were any \u201cdocetists\u201d (as the modern and ancient church tradition defines them) I am not so sure.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.mythicistpapers.com\">Source<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The question is harder to answer than might first be suspected. I\u2019ve been waiting a few years for the word \u201cmythicist\u201d to appear in dictionaries\u2014applied, that is, to the Christ myth theory. To my knowledge, it hasn\u2019t yet. \u201cMythicist\u201d in mainstream dictionaries still refers to 1. a student of myths, or 2. an interpreter of myths. Wikipedia makes a disparaging nod in the direction of mythicism by calling it a \u201c19th century theology.\u201d Those who hold the view today are, presumably, pass\u00e9.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":3,"featured_media":898,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":[],"categories":[4],"tags":[73,77],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/mythikismos.gr\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/893"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/mythikismos.gr\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/mythikismos.gr\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mythikismos.gr\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/3"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mythikismos.gr\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=893"}],"version-history":[{"count":6,"href":"https:\/\/mythikismos.gr\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/893\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":901,"href":"https:\/\/mythikismos.gr\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/893\/revisions\/901"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mythikismos.gr\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/media\/898"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/mythikismos.gr\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=893"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mythikismos.gr\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=893"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mythikismos.gr\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=893"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}